Wither operational upgrades?
Posted on Jan 08, 2009 under xn--zqqs84h3is.com | editIt seems to me that with the possibility of instant upgrade on latidude fares, flight coupons and those playing aerolotto, there is almost no room for op ups anymore.
I have flown 30 segments this year- about ten were upgraded with coupons but no operational upgrade. I used to score at least three or four a year.
What has been your experience?
I was op-up'd three times last year. This year only once up to date. Most of these were done ex YWG and once to my complete surprise in YYZ
The first time was a YVR-YYZ flight for the Saturday morning of the Thanksgiving w/e. Y was oversold and I was a lowly P member then.
The second time was truly a nice gesture. It was a flight from YUL-LHR on Christmas eve and, even though J was not full, I was op-up'd to J on an A330. Y was not full.
There was one another when I had a VBD and was rebooked in J. I would not consider this an op-up though.
On UA, have been op-upped from C to F on IAD-LHR.
Simon
'Course, I wouldn't even go to the airport unless I was already in a premium cabin.
As has been typical, that summer-only flight ends Labor Day weekend.
Timetable shows YYZ departures thereafter as:
0850, 1300, 1540, and 2055 thru October;
0840, 1715, and 2055 for the winter.
Winter service has been 3 flights/day for years.
Quite a way to start my european semester that was "forced" b/c of Katrina.
On UA, have been op-upped from C to F on IAD-LHR.
Simon
I think attitude helps determine it. Alot of G/A's just won't OP UP that SE who's on his blackberry all the time and thinks he's more important than the world. Maybe strike up a convo with them next time and see what happens. Just a word of advice.
I have no issue with friends getting friends or co-workers upgraded, as I've benefitted from such largesse a few times myself, but for those wondering why op-ups seem to be fewer and fewer, my experience might explain some of the scarecity.
Well it's all about who you know my friend, not what you know! That is how the game is played. Accept it and you will prosper.
I've only been op-uped once, didnt have any status (this year is the first time I've had status) and it was because Y was overbooked. Was a nice surprise though :)
Other times have been operational, and once because my flight had been cancelled and the rebooked one was late. The same GA dealt with me at both gates and upgraded me.
I must admit that I still have a moment of pure bliss when I hear my name over the P.A. :-)
Lasy year I was getting some op ups on AC at least. I also did at least ten segments with *A partners US Air, United and LH and no upgrades came my way.
This year I have flown two segments with SAA and two with US.
Never been opped up on an AC metal despite being a SE for many years. Perhaps that's my fate when the bulk majority of my AE status mileages don't come from an AC metal. :p
As a many year SE, never been op-upgraded once.
On UA, have been op-upped from C to F on IAD-LHR.
Simon
Lord, are you folks unlucky...........:D
AC Elite since the Rape & Pillage of CP -- have never had an op-up.
Re-joined AA as Platinum 4 years ago -- 3 or 4 op-ups a year.
AC DOES give op-ups -- have seen several kids, grannies and tourists standing by for coach moved up on full flights, even with Es and SEs on board (including once when I was standing by with a pending cert UG request that never cleared). IME, AC treats "status" with less status than other airlines.
The 10 AM flight YYZ-YOW was cancelled so they put us all on the 11. that flight was 100% full so they kind of had to move people to the front
Just flew FRA-YYZ yesterday and there were loads of empty seats up front just a few hours before. When I boarded I noticed the seats start to fill up quickly - and then full. Clearly non-status passengers and tourists. At least 4-5 kids and people who looked really confused. Was a serious op-up fest.
You are seriously lucky. That flight is almost always booked full in J well ahead.
For those of us who are the frequent SFO travellers, is AC reducing frequency YYZ-SFO in Sept and specifically the 18:30? Having to drive another 45 mins, the 23:15 arrival is a little too late when one have to fetch rental car before driving since I typically get to the hotel around 1am if I take the last flight. With connecting from YOW, the 15:40 would require for me to leave my house at noon which is far too early..
The second was a great lounge attendant at YYC. She went around to all remaining passengers in the lounge and upgraded whomever was in Y. Too bad I didn't get her name, she deserves some recognition for it regardless of how full the back looked. Gave me the opportunity to experience the J seat in a 321. This count as an opt-up?
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I have no issue with friends getting friends or co-workers upgraded, as I've benefitted from such largesse a few times myself, but for those wondering why op-ups seem to be fewer and fewer, my experience might explain some of the scarecity.
Prior to I can only remember two op-ups for sure were. One was an upgrade from economy to super comfort (back when it existed) on YYZ-DUB a few years ago...and given the zoo that was the boarding area back in the old T1, I'm very happy it happened as I don't think I was going to get much sleep in the back. The other was a Jetz substitution on ORD-YOW...an extra bonus considering I was expecting a CRJ.
I did have a number of no-cert necessary upgrades on Rapidair routes between Toronto and Ottawa while I was an Elite.
I've never been op-upped on AC metal either. At least not in the true sense of an op-up. I have been op-upped on partners, and I have also had what I call "generosity-ups" with AC. Among them:
1) Lots of drunk people in the back on the way back from a sports event so they upgraded sober me (without asking).
2) A nearly empty A319 shorthaul transborder about 4 years ago for no apparent reason.
Most of the time there is a traditional op-up scenario I always get bypassed for crew upgrades. (and a few times that also happened when I was trying to use a cert at the gate :td:)
I have even been upgraded on a reward seat booked in Y (LAX-YUL)!
I'm not SE. I've flown two roundtrips this year and was upped for the aforementioned Orlando segment (second segment of the year, in June) and outbound to LHR (special circumstances for that one.) Last year I did about 50K status miles, none in paid J, and got more opups than successful cert uses. I've been getting that kind of treatment for about 5 years now. I guess it says "nice person, upgrade whenever possible" on my file. Well, I am a nice person, so I'm ok with that :). And I never fly any other airline if I have anything close to a choice. I even know the sneaky tricks to make my client's travel agent put me on AC when they want to put me on Delta or whatever. :D
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