To be a niqabi, or not to be a niqabi...?

Posted on Jan 09, 2009 under xn--zqqs84h3is.com | edit

asalamu alaikum

there have been many differences among the Ulama about which is obligatory: Covering everything but face and hands, or covering everything but hands.

Until last year, i took the opinion that covering the face was more liked by Allah but it is not mandatory...until i started to read and listen to what the ayah in the Qur'an was REALLY saying, and until I started to realize that the women at the time pf the Prophet did cover their faces.

I am not here to force anybody to do it, rather it is a simple question...Why is that that the wives, daughters, and sahabiyaat of the Prophet peace be upon him had to wear niqab but we arent obliged to? I wore niqab from choice but when i found enough proof that said niqab is wajib, my niqab has now become just as important as coverig my face.

Also this next hadith is posed towards BOTH hijabis and niqabis, because there are niqabis who try too hard to look "good" in niqab (which was myself a couple years ago): the Hadith of the Prophet peace be upon him is: "When the women step out of their houses, they should step out as "Tafilaat".

Tafilat means that no interest should be taken from them physically, they should not attract sexual attention at all. Actually the word "Tafil" in arabic means "food without salt i.e, food that has no taste"...so we should come out our houses with "no taste". If all Muslim women went by that dresscode I believe we would tryuly be from the "Ghurabaa"

tell me what u think

that there is not a single authentic hadith that makes covering the face obligatory. On the other hand, we find several ahadith which prove that covering the face is not compulsory in Islam. For instance, once while the prophet was admonishing and preaching to a group of women after having admonished the men on the Id day, "...a woman having a dark spot on her cheek stood up..." seeking clarification on the subject the prophet was discussing. (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, Hadith No. 1926)

Ibn 'Abbas said to me, "Shall I show you a woman of the people of Paradise?" I said, "Yes." He said, "This black lady came to the Prophet and said..."
(Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 7, Hadith No. 555
The hadith quoted above proves that the 'woman of the people of the paradise' was not covering her face when she had visited the prophet nor was she covering it when Ibn 'Abbas was discussing about her later.

The Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, "...The Muhrima (a woman in the state of Ihram) should not cover her face, or wear gloves."

During the day of Nahr (10th Dhul-Hijja), when Al-Fadl bin 'Abbas was riding behind the prophet on his she -camel, "...a beautiful woman from the tribe of Khath'am came, asking the verdict of Allah's Apostle. Al-Fadl started looking at her as her beauty attracted him. The Prophet looked behind while Al-Fadl was looking at her; so the Prophet held out his hand backwards and caught the chin of Al-Fadl and turned his face (to the other side) in order that he should not gaze at her..."

(Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 8, Hadith No. 6228)

Thus, it can be concluded that covering the face is not obligatory for women !! However, covering the face was obligatory for the Ummul Mu'mineen, the wives of the Prophet (pbuh) as was Tahajjud obligatory for the Prophet (pbuh). Although Muslims are exempted from its obligation !!

Thumbs Down mean Ur rejecting the Hadees !

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For Ummahat al-Muminin (raa), the wives of the Prophet (pbuh), Niqab is fard. It has been commanded in Surah al-Ahzab ayah 53 and the hadiths confirm that Ummahat al-Muminin (raa) covered their faces in obedience to the command in this ayah to screen themselves from non-mahram men.

If you claim that niqab "presents a bad image of Islam" or "is oppressive" - think! Would you say that if you saw Ummahat al-Muminin (raa) wearing their niqabs? There is no dispute that Ummahat al-Muminin (raa) wore niqab, and this fact alone makes it clear that niqab is part of Islam.
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Ruling on Niqab is Mustahabb but for wives for prophet(pbuh) its obligatory , therefore it can also be " Sunnah ".
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Hijab is a screen of privacy→Niqab is a better screen.
Hijab helps develop Taqwa→Niqab helps develop more Taqwa.
Hijab is a jihad that purifies the soul→Niqab is a greater Jihad.
Hijab is a protection for sisters→Niqab is a better protection.
Hijab is an assertion of Islamic identity→Niqab is a stronger assertion.
Hijab is fard→ Niqab is Mustahabb.
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Niqaab for me is waajib. i wear it now for almost 5 years next january.. the hadeeth which speaks off covering everything except the hands and face is daeef (weak) there are enough saheeh ahadeeth that wearing niqaab is compulsury outside some cases. The strong hadeeth for me is that Rasoel Allaah sall Allaahu alaihi wa sallam said that the woman is auwrah. He DIDN'T say "the woman, except the hands/feet and face are auwrah". If one shahaabi came to Muhammed over his marriage to a woman he asked have you seen her? when the man answered no; he said go and look, cause there is something in the eyes...

I have seen that Allaah protects me and has given me a lot to give thahks for. Alhamdulillaah.

When one person sees me walking on the street he can't be prejugded over me; simply he can't see my age, nationality, status (rich/poor) and my family status (being a mother and married), education. How many women get fired or being refused at a job, because they are mother, too old or foreign etc?

One woman had looked on me (at the airport) and she said (at loud, instead of in her head); "okay what do i know more about you except for being a muslimah?" And being supprised that i spoke to her (and her collega) in 3 languages (Dutch, English and German), i was wel cared for, my clothes were normal and clean and i walked like this while i was in the last term of my pregnancy (two weeks later i delivered a babyboy)

When non mahram look at me with hope to see my beauty (since one woman (argg hasboen Allaah) told her husband that i looked as one of the Hoor al iyn) they attempt fails and i become more and more aware of the ayaa "stay in your houses".

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Hmm although i believe it is waajib , i hate the discussion. A muslim women that fears her Rabb let that been seen outwardly (she stays far away from al munkar and zina'ah)and not based on the thought that something is waajib or sunnah. But she does it to please her Rabb and wants to stay away from haraam. Surely niqaab isn't a valid reason to leave the house, but is one of the rulings (like no perfume and premission) that should been apllied. If these rulings are for me not applied i am not visible outside my home (even if it will let me stay inside for 3 months.) Even if i have 2 young children under the age of 4, that want to play in the garden or playground. For me niqaab isn't just a veil, but a life style that a muslima can't follow because of her nafs and shaytaan. Only the moeminaat can follow these rulings. So i am not fighting with sisters or argue with them, simply i know that they can't adopt this lifestyle unlless they want to become a moemina

But for how many sisters and brothers is it enough they pray (one time in the masjid on friday or at the most 5 times a day) and performs the fast and make the niyaah to perform hadj when they have become old?? How could such sister adopt the rulings of niqaab (no mixing with genders, being silent (no gossip etc), staying in the house, asking premission to leave the house and there are more but not the place to write them all here down)) ...

I have seen that the sister that refuse to wear niqaab, has more reasons not to wear it based upon their nafs than that they doubt over the context of the hadeeth. Instead of saying "i don't want to wear the niqaab because of my nafs" no they say "the ulema is itself in conflict" not understanding they themselves are standing in front of Allaah one day.

Better come by Allaah with (in their eyes) extremism (since you will be ask over your niyaah (how can Allaah refuse deeds that are based upon pleasing Allaah that are in accordance with the Islamic shariah?) than coming with sins by Allaah based upon the niyaah that you have blamed the ulema of their differences of opinion???

Masha Allaah..

I just wear a hijab and I'm not a niqabi.

i'd like to be a niqabi, but *sighs* its difficult i think :'''(

and i really wanted to be a ninja!!!!!! :(

but i rate all the women big time who do wear niqab alhamdulillah :D

I don't see the point of wearing it.

Women don't need to cover their faces or hands. It's just their hair, chest and feet and their arms up to their wrest. (Not hands)

Who knows more Ulamas or Allah?

The Quran clearly states that a women should cover her "bosoms" in what way is the face a "bosom"?

There is also a Hadith which Muhammad spoke to a girl saying that she should only show two things one being the face and the other being the hands.

I think that Muslims are held to a higher standard than non-Muslims, and in the same way, the prophet's (SAW) wives were held to a higher standard than other believing women.
I do not think that the niqab is mandatory. It may be more liked by God (swt) but I cannot seem to see how one would interpret any ayah to mean that niqab is obligatory. I can see where one might get that it is favored/liked/halal, etc.Men may be weaker than women, but that does not in any way excuse them from their responsibilities for women. It also consequently does not put an extra duty on women.

It is a serious question indeed. From what I have learned, the umm al mu'mineen were a special class as of course they had direct access to the knowledge of the Prophet (saws). Even after his death they were forbidden to marry again, which is a stipulation only for them and does not of course appply to any other women then or now. So the question becomes was the niqab also a special condition for them, as they were umm al- mu'mineen or not? I do not have enough knowledge to answer it definitively one way or the other, so I have to rely on the respected scholars. From what I have read from them, the niqab is allowable and favorable but not compulsary. If we look at the verses from surah al nur, where men are told to lower their gaze and women are told not to show their adornments, etc I understand this to mean that women did show their faces because otherwise why would men be told to lower their gazes if there was nothing to see in the first place? Also, the commentators of the Quran unamiously agree that in those verses when it speaks about not showing the adornments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof , that means the hands and face. Secondly, we know the Prophet saws was never ambigous about any subject, especially when it came to the halal or haram In fact He saws used to repeat things 3 times in order to make sure it was peferctly clear to all. If it were an absolute fard to cover the face, I believe He saws would have stated it clearly. I have no problem whatsoever with sisters who wear the niqaab and i absolutely believe it is their right and I detest those who say such sisters are "extreme". But from my humble view, I do not believe the niqab to be fard, and Allah swt knows best.

I admire women who choose to wear niqab. My position on it at this time is that it is a choice, not necessarily Fard or Wajib. I know some people who think it is too extreme, but I never heard it called bid'ah before.

Anyway, I have a hard time accepting that women have to bear almost the entire burden of "controlling" men's desires. Why aren't they lowering their gazes? Why aren't they fasting more Nafl fasts to weaken their desires? Why are they going out in shorts? Why do they get wear nice designer clothes while their wives are dressed all in black? why are they not continuing to dress the same way as the men of the Prophet's, peace be upon him, time? Why aren't they wearing turbans or beards or thobes or long kurtas and qameez? I would be more accepting of niqab as typical Islamic dress for women if the men (most of them) would follow the same dress codes of the past like they expect us to follow.

If women are commanded to draw the veil over their head i.e Hijab � �consequently, when it is compulsory to cover her head/hair, then the compulsion of covering the face will be to a greater extent. Because the face is the centre of beauty and temptation.

We find that when people search for a beautiful person, they ask only regarding the face, if the face is beautiful, they don� �t attach so much important to the rest of the body.

So how can it be that the Islamic law command the covering of the head and permit the face to be left uncovered?

Every man who possesses sexual desires can easily conclude which one of the two is more worthy of covering.

EDIT: Adnan, do not talk about the Qur'an, when you're unsure of its teachings. It was permissible for women to show their faces to strangers. However, this was before the verse of Hijaab was revealed: � �O Nabi, say to your wives, your daughters and the believing women that they should suspend cloaks over themselves� �

Cloaks is a Jilbaab, a Jilbaab is a covering, or a cloth, which covers the � �entire� � body including the head. Hence when women are commanded to use a Jilbaab so that they may remain concealed, then the covering of the face will definitely be included.

I think it's hot outside. rofl

idk i never studied the topic, but i think its quite hard wearing a niqab (if i was a girl)....

pce

Being a niqabi feeels soo good as not only do my ears stay warm during winter, but also guys give you less attention!! Its wicked as that kind of attention leads to bad stuff and you may end up as corrupted! Disagree with me if you want peeps but you know its true...Even jinns get hooked on girls who show their hair in public...there have been numerous cases in where jinns posses these females as they 'fall in love with them'

You should also wear a burkha to go with your hijab, because only wearing a hijab by itself can still get you attention from guys.

I agree with you. I too dislike women who try to look good in niqab, or hijab for that matter. They in turn look ugly. Nothing more beautiful to me than a sister in proper hijab. No details, no frills.

Even some women in khimar put their hair up high. They just look trashy.

As for niqab, I am for it, too. I want to wear it and am waiting for the right moment (I study in France, which makes it hard/impossible). For now I wear black overhead abaya.

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